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The HT Guys HDTV and Home Theater Podcast #252 - Blu-ray Backlash
By The HT Guys
Braden Russell and Ara Derderian
Posted on February 22, 2008
Category: General Interest
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We had planned some very different content for today's show, but something very strange happened this week. There seems to be a huge backlash against Blu-ray for some reason. It caught us somewhat by surprise, but the trend is too strong to ignore, so we just have to talk about it. If the war really is over, and by most accounts it is, why aren't people rejoicing in the peaceful times ahead? Why can't we put the differences behind us and move on to soak in all our movies in HD on one kind of disc, and maybe enjoy a little wide scale adoption at the same time?

Blu-ray Backlash

Let's look back for a second. When the format war began, we chose to remain neutral - even we we thought that Blu-ray did, in fact, look better at the CES 2005 show. We didn't even report that, to keep our own biases out of the debate. As part of that neutral stance we tried to hold out on buying a player until there was a clear winner. As time went on the high definition junkie in both of us did us in. Ara picked up an HD-DVD add on drive for his Xbox360 because it was very cost effective. Braden purchased a Toshiba HD-A2 and took the umpteen free movies that came with it to sweeten the deal. For only $299, at the time it seemed like a small add to get a really good upconverting DVD player that also played high def discs.

It was hard to remain neutral, but our stance stood firm that the Toshiba was a good deal as an upconverting DVD player that also played HD-DVDs, so in the event that HD-DVD lost the war, you weren't out the whole investment. Of course, eventually Ara picked up a dedicated Blu-ray player and Braden recently acquired a PS3 (more on that in a future episode), and we moved firmly back into the neutral position. All along it was our belief that content would decide the format war. When Warner made the move to Blu-ray only, we had a pretty good idea that the end was near. And it looks like the Blu-ray camp's assertion at CES 2007 that "the end is here" may not have been as bold as we thought it was. Perhaps they knew a little more than they let on.

But with the war behind us, we should all be ready to move on, right? There might be some of us who feel a little bit of sadness with the passing of HD-DVD. Braden wasn't shy about proclaiming how much he liked the format and thought that it was executed very well. Others might be a little bit upset about the HD-DVD player purchase they made that can now serve as a giant paperweight, which is understandable. Of course it's still a good upconverting DVD player, but that's not much consolation right now. So after we wipe our tears and lick our wounds, we can see that this war, this thing everyone from retailers to the media railed against, is finally over. All the confusion, the doubt, all gone. But for some reason there are those who still just hate Blu-ray.

For example, several emailers have sent in a few different blogs about why Blu-ray still isn't any good. One post dated Feb. 13, 2008 at ZDNet.com entitled Is Blu-ray worth it? lists the pros and cons of a Blu-ray player and concludes that, in fact, no, the Blu-ray player isn't worth it. If you're a fan of high definition movies like we are, how can it not be worth it? He argues that the players are flaky, they don't all support everything you'd want them too like audio codecs or Internet connectivity, and the content just isn't that much better than an upconverted DVD. While it's true that Blu-ray's market execution wasn't stellar, the content is much better. It isn't quite the leap we made from VHS to DVD or from standard def TV to HDTV, but it's certainly better. If you have an HDTV, it's worth it to watch movies in high definition.

Another post at USNews.com date Feb. 20, 2008 and titled 7 Reasons to Forget Blu-ray provides reason why consumers should just skip Blu-ray altogether. The reasons can be summed up as: 1. upconverting DVD players are close enough, or 2. you can get HD movies elsewhere, such as Vudu or AppleTV. All decent arguments, of course the quality isn't comparable, but the convenience factor is very high. The real question is "why now?" Why when Blu-ray has just won the war, we finally have one format we can get behind, is there so much backlash. We can understand backlash against dueling formats, that's just plain confusing to customers. But it's over now. There's one message to sell to the masses. Why hack it down now?

We'll close with the Top 11 Ways Sony Plans to Celebrate Their Blu-Ray Victory from BBSpot.com.

Posted by The HT Guys, February 22, 2008 06:26 AM

Reader Commentary

Feb 22, 7:00am
The reason for the backlash is that a million people have been screwed.....and they are just now finding out HOW screwed! :(
Feb 22, 7:10am
My guess is any backlash is due to people feeling like they little say in the decision, that the format war (though I prefer to call it 'option') was decided by the studios. Hi-def dvd players will be seen as a luxury till manufacturers can get the playe
Feb 22, 7:26am
This subject has been bludgeoned to death here and in other forums and no amount of further discussion - futile except to blow off steam - is going to bring back our favorite HD DVD media. But I would like to offer a slightly different take on the "war"
Feb 22, 11:22am
I couldn't have said it any better.
Feb 22, 7:44pm
I agree with nearly everything posted here, there should be a backlash "release" because the studios decided this for us consumers. But the war is far from over and I have my own personal reasons for backlash, as well. I have been with DVD since it st
Feb 23, 3:36am
Please notice a blu-ray muti-disk player: http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644516277 Here is a blu-ray player with ethernet for web and update
Feb 23, 6:49am
People have been left in the lurch numerous times on new formats. This goes back to 8-track tapes, Sony Beta Max, Quadraphonic Format in the late 60's and early 70's, Sony Mini disc, Toshiba HD, Pioneer Laser discs, etc. Not to forget connection changes t
Feb 23, 7:14am
<<<To argue that bundling a Sony Blu Ray player with the PS3 as unfair is ridiculous. >>> I wouldn't argue a bit with your comments, Greg, except for the above - I reread all of the previous posts and I don't believe anyone argued tha
Feb 23, 7:21am
Sometimes life is all about choices. I own both the PS 3 and XBox 360. Decided to buy the PS3 for blu ray, and upconverting as my main DVD player. Could have gone with the 360 stand alone, but am one of those customers who has had the 3 red rings o
Feb 23, 8:54am
Having just picked up an A30 for $115 at Circuit City (after the Toshiba announcement), I have absolutely no intention of purchasing a BR player for $400 that can't even measure up to HD-DVD specs. As others have said here, I'll use it as an upconverting
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About The HT Guys

The HT Guys, Ara Derderian and Braden Russell, are Engineers who formerly worked for the Advanced Digital Systems Group (ADSG) of Sony Pictures Entertainment. ADSG was the R&D unit of the sound department producing products for movie theaters and movie studios.

Two of the products they worked on include the DCP-1000 and DADR-5000. The DCP is a digital cinema processor used in movie theaters around the world. The DADR-5000 is a disk-based audio dubber used on Hollywood sound stages.

ADSG was awarded a Technical Academy Award by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences in 2000 for the development of the DADR-5000. Ara holds three patents for his development work in Digital Cinema and Digital Audio Recording.

Every week they put together a podcast about High Definition TV and Home Theater. Each episode brings news from the A/V world, helpful product reviews and insights and help in demystifying and simplifying HDTV and home theater.